Pictures of the Racist Chaffin Pullan! I hate to say I inflicted violence on other kids to remain in good standing with family fathers etc. Kids trying to kill themselves left and right. I wonder whatever happened to Atfield? . For those of you relatively fresh out, young and confused, dont try to rationalize what happened there because you never will. I then had a yes or no conversation about how if I got to the level where they would let me visit home. I will say it did some good with the bonds I created with some people. And I dont get any closure at all. Loved many of them. Jr. staff starting arriving from Samoa to work at Spring Creek, and after seeing me and other kids getting mangled by grown adults, two kids Jake and Eugene, made a run for it. I think they took my shoes for a month.i remember they would wake us up in the middle of the night and make us go sit on the basketball court for however long with barley any clothes. Property amenities Free High Speed Internet (WiFi) Children Activities (Kid / Family Friendly) Pets Allowed ( Dog / Pet Friendly ) Location Contact 257 Main Boulder Rd, Big Timber, MT 59011-1435 Getting there Billings Airport 68 mi See all flights Rental Cars See all Big Timber rental cars See all nearby hotels Nearby restaurants Big Timber Bakery Tom, we couldnt look at girls. I will say, he is the reason I grew up wantingg to help others. I would like a copy of it. I tried finding you when j got out but couldnt. My step father talked my Mother into sending me here. It will be interesting to hear what kind of testimonies arise as more and more former detainees speak out. John and myself began talking to new comers at night about towing the line and going away on the inside so to speak. I would love to see much of the staff I remember, Mike Needham, Mike Tarry, Dan (the former Marine), Miss Lee, Mr. Donaldson, Miss Amy and again many others whose names not remembered but faces well known.I was there for the Bigfoot (Red) vs Bear (Blue) months. Also Cody or something like that. Do they need to here the words she says to her own mother? I dont know how complicit he was with the Chaffins of the world but I think they kept him on the sidelines. Im relieved to know its in my rear view mirror, but even though it was 20 years ago it still seems like not that long ago. Didnt they make David roll around in the mud to get dirty since he liked to be sharp dressed normally? Home office. BOOK NOW (406) 932-4387 CLOSED FOR THE SEASON. Eugene was the black kid that was wild right? AnywayI truly am proud of you man. Not the place to be if you wanted a good nights rest. Lawsuits Mount Against Spring Creek Lodge (which meant a category two violation). Lot of names I cant remember, but can see their faces. There was another Billy from Vegas. My parents then sent me to a southern baptist program in Kentucky for my junior year. I hate it even exists. You did a good job describing what went on. It amazes me that I even still remember this shit. I cant believe the place made it that long.I feel bad for any kid that had to go there. Theyd even use former Tranquility Bay students to put on the phone where we were made to talk other parents into agreeing to transfer their kids thereinto a far worse program than they were already in. I was in Spring Creek Lodge from 1999- 2000. I am not so sure this is actually a survivor sounds more like a former staff member to me. Because the ranch was operated as a pay-to-fish business for many years, the owners carefully managed pressure on the fishery and land. I am Brann Adams and I went to Spring Creek Community around 1988. So you couldnt process the traumatic loss you just experienced as a child being drug out of your bed in the middle of the night. Sorry Harrigal, I meant Atwoodhope you see the post above. WTF a boy of 16 with his sex drive in high gear being called a sex addict for kissing a girl. The real world never has felt normal since. Oh and if you struggle with school work good luck. On a side note, in that place the duality of man became very apparent. She just went through trying to get her transcripts with no luck. That place brought out the worst in people. If anyone from Serenity during that time would like to reach out you may text or call me 805-423-7174. Im sure a couple men still think of me with enmity as I do for those who were above me. If you showed too much emotion you were thrown in the hole where they fed you every meal in a tortilla. The little kid you remember was Cliff Miller, and there was Cody Bradford. Yeah thank god we made it out that shit hole. If you are using a screen reader, or having trouble reading this website, please call Redfin Customer Support for help at 1-844-759-7732. WWASP Survivors is run by a dedicated group of concerned alumni of WWASP-affiliated programs. Let me start by saying I would NEVER send my child(ren) away. The guy who conducted those warped seminarsDavid Gilcrease was his name, I thinkhe scared me. Your friend, Myles- Wisdomfamily1998. Also the hobbit what a joke i had locked myswlf in the porta potty cause i didnt wanna go back in. The behavioral boarding school was called Spring Creek Lodge Academy. Josh Lambert accused of murdering both of his Grandfathers was in both Paradise Cove and Spring Creek Lodge for years. I tried to pack my backpack and couldnt. Colton Stoneman. Not remembering Corwin would be like not remembering big mike from Excel. I thought this was all behind me but its not. After about a year I got tired of not being able to have salt on my nasty eggs. Remarks: Canyon Ferry Reservoir Views, Baldy Mountain Views and year round . When were youuuuu there? So good to finally find some people who can relate to my experience. Finally one day when I had my scheduled call, my mother asked , Are they listening to you talk. and I said , Yes . We had one guy named Joey that beat the hell out of a kid or a staff memeber with the metal tub from the vacuum cleaner one night. I put my name as 5mo for now because that was my nickname. Its a mind fuck. I remember my stay thers like it was yestetday. I was pretty much gone for the Summers staying at a friends house near the beach surfing everyday with my three best friends smoking, drinking, taking ecstasy,acid, getting arrested,steeling my brothers car and driving it to Pennsylvania. Still havent heard from him love to find him one day he was a good partner. Hey all im jamie. anyone who says that shit didnt suck is a lyin son of a bitch. My brother and I were there in 1998 to 1999. My experience at SCL showed me the more cruel and evil side of human nature. I always felt like she wanted me to fail. (talking-on-silence) infraction. That was the worst year of my life. I started in a lower-level family that I cant remember the name for the life of me, Integrity maybe? John the one i remember was a cool guy, he was the one that talked to me when i got there. As a staff member I was discouraged by the facility to form friendships with the girls. And thats at a bare minimum, giving him the probably-unwarranted benefit of the doubt and assuming he never actually abused anyone himself. I was the one that stole the truck and ran away with him. We both know whats what from that time and I wish there were things I had done differently like throw your truth to power ass in the backseat of my parents car and get you outta there. A year later I ran out of money and needed to remove my son from the program. Kevin whats up brother? We were tortured, abused, and traumatized. When I arrived i saw brainwashed kids everywhere I looked. I was failing school miserably, I had no clue what was going on in class because I missed so much school from a staph infection that I got that caused me to need hip surgery twice I had to walk on crutches for two years. Me and Mark? They have been evicted from the La Verkin properties by Robert Lichfield (Optimum Billing Services). www.ranchflip.com is using a security service for protection against online attacks. They were shown they could have a little power over others and ran with it and for the majority of them came across to me as kids that didnt really belong in any sort of place like this. The pit with Tom Sawyer and huckleberry Finn. Was anyone there at the time ? Here are our recommendations for rods, lines, flies, tippet, waders and more. how do I staff a seminar after I have graduated from the program? I dont see that as an excuse for doing what he did if he did it, but yeah, he was screwed with like all of us. I was in Spring Creek Lodge from 2002 to 2003. Not to change my behavior for the better. Snow capped peaks, All the new animals that she might see out in Montana and the stories she could tell her friends back in California. Just then, I look up and see a young girl, hispanic, walking the tracks passed our crews and out onto the long tall bridge. This was real, and Im here to validate these claims. I even slept on the floor inside what became the Hungry Horse cafeteria, on the floor by that old stove with the wolf dog Lakota hangin out there. Its dangerous out here, are her parents in the loop and on their way?? EUREKA, KANSAS The Spring Creek Ranch is home to a proud family of cattle ranchers that have worked the land for more than a century. I fought it at first because I saw how ridiculous it was. i was at spring creek lodge the summer of 2004 (in serenity). I struggle to open up all of the memories but they have started flooding back over the last few years! Many of the staff and fellow students came to know me as Cook or Cooker. Then dinner I think then back to your dorm for quiet time for a little bit. My name is Trent, I was in Excel with Henry, Brad, Matt, Bill, Jesse, Scott, Jason and a whole bunch of other little fuckers that were honestly mostly pretty funny kids. I simply went looking for updates on Spring Creek and was shocked to find this. You can email me at ri25tch2.0@gmail.com. When it was more like an experiment on kids.All the mind screwing and torture that we went through. I am doing my own research for background on a possible article. Nicole Scribner, 406-827-6922. Youre telling me a 15 year old shouldnt call his parents for 13 months because he was a trouble maker a year ago. A white car speeds around me pulls to the side of the road and another women jumps out. Before I left, Karlye and I were working on goals. We both made lists and crossed them off as we accomplished them. My son never progressed in the levels and he talked about the hobbit but I had no idea how awful it was. Not perfect, but harmless. The Counselors who had no degrees were simply misfits from society who had no where else to go, One of tre counselors had gone through the program himself and was offered a job with no degree. I was there in 97 when there were just a few of us. The portion of the creek on the O'hair ranch is filled with riffles, pockets and runs. Their website recommended that parents watch the movie Thirteen to understand what horrible things their teenagers are doing. if u are ever on this site again, Yes Im 52 and was at spring creek in 83-84 I still to this day have PTSD nightmares and an not on speaking terms with my family. All this being said, I DO want to visit someday. McCoy Spring Creek Ranch | Montana Land for Sale SOLD McCoy Spring Creek Ranch 1210 ACRES Dillon IN Beaverhead COUNTY MONTANA Listing Price: $10,500,000 < > MOST RECENT STATUS UPDATE Sold November 15, 2012 Property Updated January 5, 2021 Details Free Subscribers Sign up for Free Access Market Experts Become a Market Expert Map Whats up everyone. @sirroderickciff345 Blessings to you all. It was completely unexpected, I didnt get to say goodbye, and I was permitted to return home like I wanted. Did I fimd it Funny that only cute girls got to Work at Camerons and Chaffins Home? I am proud of that and still remember my times there. It is a unique spring creek for the fact that you could practically . These hatches include midges, many species of mayflies and varieties of caddis. On my survival our only girl Amanda wrecked her knee, like day 1 in Flagstaff so they shipped her out and apparently she stayed at he upper/main/school campus To me, the sickness that afflicts the hearts of people like Lambert is a true testament to the snake oil our parents purchased in the name of trying to reach their children. I remember a few weeks in once it REALLY sank in I lost it. Not another sheep in one of your workshops. Fuck every parent that ever sent their kids to this school. Johnkharrigal@gmail.com. Im sorry it happened to anybody. We went to Discovery in Seattle and stayed on board with the staff. And same day I dislocated Bills shoulder from him and tmac restraining me. Dude you were one of the first ones, and I heard stories about how much worse it was before I got there. It was a place that MADE you earn your privileges. I found out yesterday chaffin was arrested as a child molester for having sex with one of the girls in the program. If anyone remembers me hit me up id live to chat jameshanson42@gmail.com. I decided that the level two privileges of butter, sugar, and a weekly candy bar were not worth it. You could have done something like reported the place but you didnt. Mike, Im pretty sure I was there with you. Id also like to point that schooling in this program left something to be desired, and doing three entire grades in 10 months is a good example of why. I was there a short time and left two months before my 16th birthday. I had nightmares for years anxiously trying to escape the place I call hell. The surrounding mountain ranges and plains offer great hunting opportunities for healthy herds of elk, antelope, Whitetail and Mule deer. I hated it there. i once ran away while on a transport in missoulaa douche named cliff was our family father at the timeso many memorieswhat a shit hole, I was in Excel as well. Consequently, It was very easy for me to lose points for being unconscious and neglectful, especially when all the girls in leadership positions used to watch us like hawks and consequent us for every minor mistake. We will have to transfer her to another level facility.. Feel free to reach out if you would like, my email is scott_wayze@yahoo.com, I was in integrity family all I know is that place saved my life . Their model was brainwashing. There was much discussion and hype about the real estate market and economy in general in 2022. I am writing this from a prison cell and it is being submitted on my behalf by another party who told me about this site. Exceptional elk hunting & resident elk herd consisting of hundreds of elk offering hunters both archery & rifle opportunities. All of the outgoing letters were pre-read by staff, so anything defamatory or heavy on complaining was not allowed to be mailed out. isnt it funny how some guy would be support staff one day and then hes your teacher the next day. I also like to think of it as an Orwellian concentration or internment camp for minors, but I suppose the term private prison might be less offensive. Information related to travelling to Montana: which airports to fly into, major towns, etc. He was an instant friend. It was literally a correctional facility to house unwanted kids. We had such a bad reputation that Cameron forced us to rename the family in an attempt to get a fresh start. Remember ? I got there and saw kids that I thought went home months before or that was said that were being transferred when in fact was kept at this house. If I cold take it and give it back to thoes ppl who ran that place I would. he said he was an ex alcholic and talk about bringing home to work with you. Climate risk data is provided for informational purposes only. Redfin has 44 photos of Nhn Nevada Spring Creek Rnch. They put us through seminars that were some weird brain washing bullshit. One of the customers overheard us and said there is a girl about 1 mile up near the storage sheds on the right and there are two guys talking to her. I also got in trouble for talking to other level-ones as level-ones can only talk to their buddies or level-threes and higher. If I were there some of the staff who is still alive (probably) would not be.. My mom suffers ptsd from this place too. So glad this hell-hole was shut down. Woodworking, welding, cosmetology for females barbershop courses. Do you remember the wolf dog Lakota? But I dont want to waste your time. One he liked a lot, the other was opened and managed by a former employee of SCL. This happens more often than you would believe and I have been out for over eight years. We didnt stay too close after he came back. Here she is. Or Jeff Manzanares badass staff member?? Sounds like a case worker or family parent. Dont look back, and dont try to lose yourself in some routinejust live. The ones that got their dicks hard when handing out cat 2s for looking at girls. I have bad memories and that place took a lot of my good qualities and I didnt leave with them. He got screwed over so badly by the seminar powers that be I still want to cave Duane Smothermans head in with my fist when I think about what they did to him. Chelsie, you are right about not remembering everything clearly. Anyway, hope you guys are all doing good, I think of you all from time to time. (john H, Myles, Eugene..etc) what a trip ANd all of your stories are hauntingly familiar.times and memories i had locked up deep down to forget about i mean what good did gravel pit do? Enjoy lightly fished streams and trophy lakes on one our exclusive ranch leases. While Cameron and his brother got rich off of gullible parents that dont know what to do with there kids. We use to watch movies with u guys on sundays. The best spring creek fishing in Montana Guest Cabin on the Creek Make your Montana experience unforgettable: Be our guest in this quaint, rustic cabin sitting on the banks of upper Armstrong's Spring Creek. Im sorry to hear of his problems and I hope he will finally get the mental hell he needs. Its like they were taunting the kids. I adored many of those kids. There was also this one time when a girl from one line saw her boyfriend from home walking in another line and they ran to each other and kissed. The next time the Flue rag bitches tried to creep on us, they got completely smashed on. If you have difficulty accessing content, have difficulty viewing a file on the website, or notice any accessibility problems, please contact us at 833.982.1964 to specify the nature of the accessibility issue and any assistive technology you use. I was the kid that got messed with. My name is Trent, I was in Excel from March 2000- March 2001 with Mark, Henry, Brad, Matt, Bill, Jesse, Scott, Jason and a whole bunch of other little f*kers that were honestly pretty funny kids. Its productive waters located in the heart of Paradise Valley draw anglers from far and wide. I was in dignity then Focus, then respect when I was sent back. They no longer did tbe gravel pit or trail of lights.and tbey toned down the seminars. There is a good population of Ring-necked pheasant for the avid upland bird hunter, as well as a resident Whitetail deer herd that is capable of producing true trophy bucks in the 130-180 class. He slit his wrists if I remember, but survived. Legendary status Bob I hope you can finally stop having those nightmares buddy!