Son of Ezzelin M. and Edvige (Oliana) Armani. Zitrain, Richard A. and Carol M. Langford (2000). Save. He's like, "No.". Brenna Farrell: Garrow was charged with trying to kidnap two college kids. Marion Armani Dec 8, 1930 - Dec 21, 2021 Marion Edith Armani (Dayger-Balintfy), 91, of West Monroe, died at her home in Tyler, Texas on December 21, 2021. Jamie York is our senior producer. Copyright 2023 American Bar Association. We are sad to announce that on July 2, 2022, at the age of 18, Armani Clark (Lancaster, South Carolina) passed away. Jim Tracy: People loaded their rifles, they locked their doors for the first time, and Speaker 17: We've noticed a lot of people leaving around here. Brenna Farrell: He's been reporting on this story since about 2000. Funeral Service will be held Monday, July 11, 2022 at 2: 00 P.M, Lancaster High School Multipurpose Building. Armani, now 79 and semiretired, is widely regarded within the legal profession as a hero. Brenna Farrell: And he admits to killing Alicia and Susan. But they tell him, if you talk to us, maybe we can get you Lisa Lerman: Not guilty by reason of insanity. And I just had that feeling that this guy is dangerous, and a lot of things are going to happen. frank armani: Up in the Adirondacks there. Brenna Farrell: And a pedophile in prison? Get introduced. Brenna Farrell: Eventually Belge found the other body, Alicia Hauck's body. There's no justification, you couldn't justify it in my mind. Robert Krulwich: Thanks also to Tom Alibrandi, author of Privileged Information, with Frank Armani. [1][2] Armani and Belge found the women's bodies but chose to keep the information confidential. frank armani: Because I felt I needed support. He stabbed him five times in the chest. frank armani: And I said, come on. Regardez le Salaire Mensuel de Michael Britton Obituary en temps rel. Clark D. Cunningham at Georgia State University's College of Law, Debra Armani, Brian Farrell, Jennifer Brumback, Nick Capodice, and archive researcher Stephanie Jenkins. This, of necessity, involves telling his attorney everything remotely connected with the crime. [1] The attorneys held a press conference the next day, where they admitted they had known about the location of the missing women for six months. Roberta Petz: And this is what is being taught in law schools. I don't know. [1], Four years after his conviction, Garrow escaped from prison. [3] Belge was indicted for allegedly violating two state public health laws by failing to disclose his discovery of the dead bodies. The defendant was assigned two attorneys, Frank H. Armani and Francis R. Belge. Brenna Farrell: Hello. frank armani: Well, if I'm going to do it I'm going to do it openly, you know? The cubic sofa is covered in raw silk woven in Connecticut by James Gould. frank armani: In my mind I'm saying "What the hell do I want to get involved with this, you know, for?". Jim Tracy: To help him with this case, as co-counsel. Brenna Farrell: When they got there, they went up to Garrow's room, up on the fifth floor of the hospital. frank armani: You have to be careful. Jad Abumrad: This is Radiolab, and now we should get back to our story from producer Brenna Farrell. If the people are already dead, then the law is, shh. [4], While ethical rules are determined by each state, portions of the ABA's Model Rules of Professional Conduct have been adopted by 49 states. Jim Tracy: But maybe it was because he had temporarily gone insane. Armani Saucedo, age 9, 3rd grade student at Irving Elementary School, passed away on Saturday, March 12, 2022. Meanwhile, Armani, he said he couldn't sleep, he was having nightmares. by Brenna Farrell: So the trial opens, the courtroom is jam-packed. Brenna Farrell: Just to try to be fair to everyone involved, as far as I've encountered, anyone, law professors, law students, when they approach this it's with a lot of sensitivity and they are struggling with the pain. Brenna Farrell: So is this a road that goes to the mine? These are missing kids, we're the only ones who know, shouldn't we just call the police? Speaker 15: Here this morning, at about 11:30, you can see a state police car is parked almost as far up the road as you can see. Speaker 27: Said they knew the body was here, and they had seen it. More information about Sloan at www.sloan.org. Serial killer and rapist Robert Francis Garrow attacked the four campers in July 1973, stabbing Philip Domblewski to death while the other three escaped and contacted police. She was born Natalia M. Mozo, December 25, 1927, to. [1] He was tied to a tree and stabbed to death. Brenna Farrell: Go sit at the kitchen table drinking coffee and just waiting for the morning paper to come, because he was just alone with it. Brenna Farrell: Okay. The New York county court dismissed the indictment "in the interests of justice. Armani insists he is no hero. and the investigator thought that the lawyers were absolutely ludicrous. Were you excited? [5] A court can quash a request for a lawyer to disclose information that violates the privilege. Speaker 31: Want to just stand up. It took four years, but that complaint too was eventually dismissed. And I think that that should at least be an equal thought in their mind, if not a greater consideration. frank armani: It's like a lynch mob out there. Okay, I'm Roberta Petz, and I'm Susan's mother. [5][6] It also showcases the ethical questions that can arise for lawyers related to confidentiality, attorney-client privilege, and clients' self-incrimination. Lisa Lerman: Because we have Sixth Amendment right to counsel and the Fifth Amendment right not to incriminate oneself. [1], Ahead of trial, Garrow told his attorneys that he killed Domblewski. Simon Adler: And in that moment, were you scared? Susan's body is discovered by two kids who were playing up in the mines. N.Y. State Bar Ass'n Comm. And that was what he and Belge did. It's known as the Buried Bodies Case. Brenna Farrell: Would you mind just telling us who you are, your name and introduction? You just can't. [25], It was featured in The Buried Bodies Case in 2016 on the podcast RadioLab. Brenna Farrell: And they're trying to convince him, you've got to talk to us if you're going to have any shot. And he says he would handle the Garrow case just the same if he had it to do over again. [3][2] Hauck and Armani's daughter went to the same school. This episodewe consider a string of barbaric crimes by a hated man, and theattorney who, when called to defend him, also wound up defending a core principle of our legal system. He would get these intense headaches, and become psychotic and do horrible things. He told his lawyers that, in a separate incident, he had murdered another camperand abducted, raped and murdered the mans female companion. frank armani: They could have some information for you. He was alone with this secret, and he knew at that moment, the police are trying to find these girls. [ March 26, 2020 ] Mon Valley Independent will be digital-only on Mondays Latest News [ March 3, 2023 ] Showtime in California Latest News [ March 3, 2023 ] Squawk raised in Donora over chicken coops Latest News [ March 3, 2023 ] BVA musical costumes destroyed Latest News [ March 3, 2023 ] Valley swimmers become medalists at WPIAL meet Sports [14], The case has been the subject of numerous books, including Privileged Information by Tom Alibrandi with Frank Armani (1984)[2] and Terror in the Adirondacks: The True Story of Serial Killer Robert F. Garrow by Lawrence Gooley (2009). frank armani: The mine is up in Mineville. Brenna Farrell: Investigator from the state police. Brenna Farrell: What was happening was, the man was stabbing Domblewski with his buck knife. Experts say the case offers a particularly stark, compelling example of one of the most difficult ethical dilemmas to confront a lawyer. Brenna Farrell: Yeah, I think that's probably not okay. [11] This information led police to discover Garrow hiding near the prison. frank armani: And you don't know if there are taps in the room or what. Lisa Lerman: And there were about 400 people in the room. Prior to Garrow's killing spree in 1973, Frank Armani, a liability lawyer, had been representing him for several years. Add photo. Robert Krulwich: We'll be right back. Brenna Farrell: No one wanted him as a lawyer anymore. Brenna Farrell: Couple of months ago, producer Simon Adler and I went up to visit them. You know, we'll make an anonymous call. Brenna Farrell: Six months later. Jad Abumrad: Three, two, one. Robert Krulwich: I'm Robert Krulwich. How Shakespeares 'Hamlet' can shed light on legal bias, Family law gave this lawyer some ideas about what clients really want. We've got to tell the prosecutor. Pauline Arcurio, 97, of Johnstown, PA died on February 17, 2023 at UPMC Passavant in Pittsburgh, PA. Born August 8,1925 in Johnstown, PA, daughter of Giuseppe and Giuseppina Semola Camuti. Here is his phone number (814) 486-0941 (Windstream Pennsylvania, Inc). [4] Model Rule 1.6 provides that a lawyer will not reveal information relevant to her representation of a client without the client's consent. This is what a lawyer should be.". He had a buck knife, binoculars around his neck. [9] They later destroyed the photographs, the record of their conversation with Garrow, and the diagram he drew. Armani Alexander Ricciardi, 28, loving son of Rod and Theresa Ricciardi passed away on Tuesday, November 24, 2020. "[12], The prosecution appealed. Jim Tracy: By Monday or Tuesday, they had 200 men on the case. Jim Tracy: Frank H. Armani. FAIRHOPE, AL 36532. Armani and Belge, who both practiced in Syracuse, received widespread support from the legal profession. Jim Tracy: Detective McCabe and the district attorney at Armani's office. Brenna Farrell: And on top of that, Armani tells him frank armani: I says, "This is going to be a big case.". frank armani: I remember Mr. Petz coming to my office. And then he had an automobile accident, I represented him on that. Login or Sign Up; He said, "Freeze," or "Drop your gun," something to that effect. On this Wikipedia the language links are at the top of the page across from the article title. Brenna Farrell: At this point, it was just Belge in the room, and he told him, yes he had killed Domblewski, and he had also killed other people too. The House narrowly adopted the new language over objections that it would erode confidentiality rules for lawyers. She was born April 9, 1929 to the late Burr and Lillian. Robert Krulwich: This is Beatrice Bastedo from Toronto, Canada, calling to read the credits. While those differences in language might seem like ethical hair-splitting, the 2002 amendment was one of the most hotly debated items in a package of Model Rules revisions considered by the ABA House of Delegates. They indicated that they could come forth now, released. Brenna Farrell: And the man with the gun just kind of stood up. Frances Brown Cummings, 93, of Winchester, VA and previous long-time resident of Purcellville, VA died peacefully on February 14, 2023. [4] The exception states that a lawyer may reveal information relating to their client if they reasonably believe it is necessary "to prevent reasonably certain death or substantial bodily harm. The murder, the manhunt, and on August 9th, the night Garrow got captured, Frank gets a call from Garrow's wife. Police are standing guard. How did this whole story start for you? I'm Brenna. Brenna Farrell: The police follow a lead that he had stolen a car, and he had been sighted, and they're kind of closing in on him. Yeah. Jim Tracy: And to back up a little ways-. The games table is a reductive example in the Louis XVI-style, covered in parchment with chairs of ceruse oak, straw and leather. frank armani: But I couldn't tell him anything. Brenna Farrell: Because he's looking right at this man, knowing exactly Well, imagining what he's going through. He was guilty. How many times you want to give him life? (1984). The policemen at the time, that we were with, received a phone call that Danny's my daughter's boyfriend, his body was found. Frank Armani was born circa 1916, at birth place, New York, to Paul Armani and Cecilia Armani. Other proposals by the Ethics 2000 Commission to ease the rules on confidentiality were voted down or withdrawn in the face of opposition. [9], The ethics opinion emphasized that the attorney-client privilege is necessary to ensure clients disclose all possible pertinent information to their lawyers. The papers think that Garrow probably had something to do with her disappearance, is there anything at all that he's told you that can help me?". Brenna Farrell: And why didn't you? Jim Tracy: His friend. All rights reserved. Jim Tracy: So, Freeman and the killer are laying in a ditch Brenna Farrell: And after about an hour Jim Tracy: The men come. Jim Tracy: So, Saturday night, July 28th, 1973, four young people Brenna Farrell: Ages 18 to 23 Jim Tracy: Three men and a woman, go camping in the Adirondacks. Brenna Farrell: Armani was getting death threats in the mail. YOUNGSTOWN, Ohio (MyValleyTributes) - Armani Wainwright, a life-long resident of Youngstown, Ohio, passed away unexpectedly on Sunday, August 29, 2021 at the age of 22. Our foundation needs to expand with our dreams to be achieved safely without being killed in the process of promoting peace. In 1973, a massive manhuntin New York's Adirondack Mountains ended when police captured a man namedRobert Garrow. He graduated from St. John's University and enlisted in the United States Air Force where he served for 21 years. This episode we consider a string of barbaric crimes by a hated man, and the . Alibrandi, Tom (with Frank H. Armani). Jim Tracy: Now armed with a .30-30 rifle and knife, and this story was on every TV station, CBS, ABC, and NBC. You're a fool if you don't. The family of Armani wishes to extend our sincere thanks to Appleton Medical Center ER for all they did for Armani and her family and a special thanks to Rev. I don't want to get caught, so I'm going to tie you to trees.". frank armani: Pistol on my back. [4][2], Following Garrow's confession, Armani and Belge decided to confirm whether Garrow was telling the truth. The court named Armani and Francis Belge, another local lawyer, as Garrow's appointed counsel. frank armani: Well, what the hell's the difference? The day after Garrow finished testifying, Armani and Belge acknowledged publicly that they had known all along about the murders and the locations of the victims bodies. [9], Although both lawyers were ultimately absolved of wrongdoing, the fallout took a toll on Armani and Belge. Frank had 10 siblings: Palmyra Armani, Richard Armani and 8 other siblings. Belge has since died. He says-, Brenna Farrell: "I can't tell you, there's nothing I can tell you.". Produced by Matt Kielty and Brenna Farrell. The lawyer, maybe he considered it to be ethical, but what he was doing was lying to my husband and causing us more months of horror. He skipped his court date and just disappeared. Lisa Lerman: Maybe 25 to life. Just tell. Ahead of trial for an unrelated murder, Garrow confessed to his lawyers that he had murdered two missing women and hidden their . So in this situation, the two girls are dead. It gets under your skin. Radiolab is produced by Jad Abumrad. Brenna Farrell: Because you can't, you don't really know but you know. The World Human Peace Foundation https://www.worldhumanpeace.com/ World Peace Music Concert [4] Several legal scholars believe Armani and Belge acted ethically in refraining from sharing their client's confession. Garrow gets on the stand and he starts telling his life story, and it's horrible. "[15], One of the victims' parents filed ethics complaints against Armani and Belge with New York State Bar Association disciplinary officials. Brenna Farrell: Susan was the girl from Chicago, she was a college student who'd gone missing while she was camping with her boyfriend, and she's who Armani and Belge found in the mine. And the investigation into the ethical complaint, that would drag on several years. Lisa Lerman: To help get Garrow into a mental hospital instead of a prison, that was the goal. frank armani: Wake up 2:30 in the morning with the sweat running down your back. (2016). While the two lawyers insisted that their duty of client confidentiality obliged them to remain silent, they were widely reviled outside the profession for withholding the information. Sharon Smith: Opening day of the trial might be one of the most significant, even though Brenna Farrell: Robert Garrow's trial. Brenna Farrell: And Armani and Belge, they need as much information about what Garrow has done as they possibly can get so they can start to build their defense. Roberta Petz: Yeah, well, it's impossible to really communicate in words. Jim Tracy: So, after he had the four people tied, he went back to the first boy, 18-year-old Philip Domblewski and Brenna Farrell: Because the other three kids were spread out through the forest, they couldn't really see what was happening. They . [4] The Buried Bodies Case provided professors with an example in the mid-1970s of how ethical issues could be taught from a human perspective with real world problems. Brenna Farrell: No. He kept it a secret for 5 months. Jim Tracy: And Garrow would tell his whole life story. Brenna Farrell: This is a year before the manhunt, 1972, Frank remembers he represented him at first on two pretty small things. frank armani: There's no money in it. Armani A'Lisia Clark, 18, died Saturday, July 2, 2022. See who you know in common. [12][14] The National Association of Criminal Defense lawyers wrote a brief supporting Belge, arguing that attorney-client privilege would be destroyed if Belge were convicted.[12]. Test the outer edges of what you think you know. This case is not just an interesting historical footnote, says Morgan. I'm going to take your gas. frank armani: And then we went out the back door and took off. The Model Code allowed a lawyer to reveal the intention of his client to commit a crime and the information necessary to prevent the crime, but not prior acts admitted in confidence. [15] The appeals court confirmed that the claims should be dismissed, but expressed concern about a limitless attorney-client privilege. His companions escaped, but Domblewski didnt. [6], Lawyers cannot be compelled to disclose certain lawyer-client communications due to the attorney-client privilege. frank armani: To see that at the time he was nuts. Brenna Farrell: To kind of monitor the situation, I guess. Roberta Petz: Okay. View Dorina's full profile. Today the case, known as the "Buried Bodies Case, is discussed in virtually every college and law school course addressing legal ethics and professional responsiblity. Jeremy Bentham on legislation and legal style, 6 steps to starting meditation: Dont overpreparejust dive in. A funeral service will be held on Thursday, March 9th 2023 at 11:00 AM at the St. Anthony's Catholic Church (BIA Rte 431, Neopit, WI 54150). Brenna Farrell: He wanted Armani to represent him. Brenna Farrell: So from the moment I started thinking about this story, I always wanted to talk to the families involved, which proved really difficult. Speaker 29: The state's public health law and provision that says that a body must be given a quick and decent burial. Lizzie: Hi, this is Lizzie, from Arlington, Texas. Experienced Trial Attorney, Civil and Criminal. Our fact checkers are [Eva Dasher 00:47:42] and Michelle Harris. But during his trial in 1974, under direct questioning by Belge, Garrow confessed to murdering Domblewski, the other male camper and the two women who had been missing, as well as to a number of rapes and abductions throughout upstate New York. What your role is, is to play this part of a system in which you're the one who stands up for the guy that everybody else hates. - Lawyer.com. Membership Details; MY ACCOUNT. (412-561-0380) on Tuesday from 1 to 3 p.m and 6 to 8 p.m., where a funeral service will be held on Wednesday, at 10 a.m. David was an avid outdoorsman and animal lover, as well as a student of history and. The 16-year-old was attending summer school in Syracuse . And in early June, Armani received a standing ovation when he appeared at a program about the Garrow case at the centers National Conference on Professional Responsibility, held in Chicago. frank armani: Yes. [7] Armani later claimed that Garrow confessed to the murders after Armani hypnotized him. Brenna Farrell: Maybe Garrow murdered this kid. frank armani: One, a school teacher had assaulted his child, he wanted to sue the school, and I talked him out of it. You're looking for a way to get the information out. Brenna Farrell: They eventually find the man's car, and they're able to run the license plate, and it comes back with an ID. Local obituaries for the Montgomery, Alabama area 2,937 Results Thursday, March 2, 2023 Add Photos 1 Memory Dora A Belser Dora Belser's passing on Saturday, February 25, 2023 has been publicly. So they want to know absolutely anything they can that's going to get them closer to solving that murder and finding that girl. Brenna Farrell: The next day, Belge and Armani hold a press conference to try to explain why they hadn't told anyone. A blue shoe. frank armani: I think I threw my phone. Lisa Lerman: Garrow wouldn't talk to any lawyer except for Armani. Lawyers have an ethical obligation to keep their clients' information secret. Physical fights. Jim Tracy: In the summer of 1974. Speaker 34: End of message. And so I guess that's why I was hoping to talk to you, to kind of let you have a chance to communicate some of that experience. Brenna Farrell: Oh, be careful. [12] It also found that Garrow's disclosure of information about the missing women was protected by confidentiality and the attorney-client privilege. [5] Any information a lawyer learns "relating to the representation of the client" must be kept confidential, including information learned from interviews, photographs, or observations. [5] The case has helped shape the development of ethical rules on confidentiality. Defense attorney Frank H. Armani and prosecutor Norman H. Mordue faced off in the murder trial of Robert Garrow Sr. in Lake Pleasant in 1973. Sa fortune s lve 65 000,00 euros mensuels Speaker 32: I agree. Jim Tracy: And calmly and coolly walked into the forest. Speaker 29: It is up to the grand jury itself in their investigation to determine which charges they should bring against the two attorneys. Speaker 16: Today, we've broken down our manpower into roving patrols Jim Tracy: Men armed with all kinds of weapons, rifles, shotguns, bloodhounds. Burial in Lancaster Memorial Park. Lisa Lerman: Who were then missing, and whose parents had no idea where they were. Syracuse, NY 13219. Brenna Farrell: Which is where this story begins. Armani and Belge, who died in 1989, kept their clients secret for nearly a year. Lisa Lerman: Is the conflict between what a good lawyer should do, and what a good person should do in this situation. And yet you have your duty as a lawyer. That's how important it was and how it was our entire lives during that period, and as far as visiting the lawyer, which my husband did, it was a totally lie. Brenna Farrell: You know, as I've explained before, my interest really in this story has to do with the fact that it seems that it's become sort of a key part of how a lot of legal ethics classes talk about the concept of confidentiality, and so I sort of wanted to just start with that idea, to ask if that's something that you knew that law schools were teaching and if you had any feelings or thoughts about that. Jim Tracy: People left the area so fast Speaker 19: A lot of them cleared out last night and the day before. [4] Meanwhile, law schools too began reconsidering the form of legal ethics in their curriculum. Brenna Farrell: And so as the prosecutor, you're not going to look so good if you give a deal to this reprehensible man. Lisa Lerman: And I think one of the things that's so fascinating about this case Brenna Farrell: This is law professor Lisa Lerman, again. Armani's salon contains an enviable collection of Jean-Michel Frank originals. frank armani: I told him, I says, "I just need backup. One-. Speaker 15: Is the fugitive police are looking for today. Jim Tracy: Belge started drinking heavily, abandoned his law practice and moved to Florida. Brenna Farrell: What does that feel like, and did you ever think you'd get to that point when you were in the midst of the hardest parts? Carol Ann Malinowski ran through the woods. Brenna Farrell: And in 1962 his plane went down and he was lost at sea. Today's show centres on the lawyers Frank Armani and Frank Belge, who were pilloried for something they did, or more precisely did not do, when representing their client on a murder charge. Armani . [1], It has also been dramatized in the 1987 TV film Sworn to Silence,[26] and a 2003 episode of the TV series Law & Order, Bodies.[27] In 2017, Fargo producer Noah Hawley announced the development of a feature film based on the case.[28]. They had to move out of their homes. Jim Tracy: Helicopters. Armani said at the CPR program that in 1973 he wasnt even aware there was a written ethics code for New York lawyers. The cops were already looking for her, hoping that Garrow might have some information. Tom was the oldest child of Marco and Claire Armani and grew up in New Hyde Park, New York with his sister Barbara Armani Kott. "The bullet hit my left thigh, traveled through my body, hit my pelvis bone and lodged in my right hip," he. I always say, you know, people so admire Atticus Finch and the difference between Atticus Finch and Frank Armani is that Armani is a real person. Brenna Farrell: And that's partly why he became an attorney. The case was even the subject of a book titled Privileged Information (co-written by Armani) and the basis for the 1987 feature film Sworn to Silence. frank armani: You know, in my mind, I was doing what I thought was the proper, ethical, legal, moral, moral thing to do. Brenna Farrell: And what they saw was this middle-aged man peering into the tent. Roberta Petz: Okay, all right. Mr. Armani is now in his eighties, he's retired. To have to live through that, I mean how do you relate losing your daughter, you know? And Armani agreed to it. Simon Adler: Okay, and we are recording. Jim Tracy: The largest manhunt in state history. frank armani: I don't like surprises. Lisa Lerman: He didn't know how. Black hair, strong man. This is giving me such Speaker 24: Yeah, you don't want to slide down in there. Brenna Farrell: Two very young girls, age 10 and 11. I wrote letters to both families, and I made a bunch of phone calls, and understandably no one wanted to talk to me. Jad Abumrad: Are you seriously bargaining with people's lives. [3], The New York State Bar Association Committee on Professional Ethics found that the attorneys acted ethically by refusing to disclose information about the missing women. [1][5] With no experience in murder trials, Armani recruited his friend Francis Belge, an experienced criminal defense attorney, to help represent Garrow. Thomas D. Morgan, a law professor at George Washington University in Washington, D.C., says Armani is a heroic figure in the sense that he faced a series of very difficult choices and ultimately came to the right conclusion. Frank Armani and Francis Belge were appointed to defend Robert Garrow for the murder of Philip Domblewski, an 18-year-old college student who was camping in the Adirondacks with three friends when Garrow attacked them and tied them all to trees. frank armani: No, you can't. Brenna Farrell: Yeah, he's trying to get a better deal for this murderer. Brenna Farrell: So Armani goes to talk to Belge. frank armani: I needed someone with brains and guts. [18], The Buried Bodies Case attracted significant attention in the mid-1970s in the throes of the Watergate scandal. Transcript. frank armani: Telling me that he wanted to talk to me. Jim Tracy: You know, the prosecution had three eyeball witnesses, they had his car at the scene of the crime, and they had his two-week flight. What excuse is there for it, to protecting the person that killed her? frank armani: It went nowhere. Special thanks to Tom Alibrandi, author of Privileged Information, with Frank Armani, Laurence Gooley, author of Terror in the Adirondacks: The True Story of Serial Killer Robert F. Garrow, Charl Bader and the students in her Criminal Defense Clinic at Fordham University, Leslie Levin and the students in her Legal Profession class at The University of Connecticut School of Law, Clark D. Cunningham at Georgia State University College of Law, Debra Armani, Mary Armani,Lohr McKinstry,Tom Scozzafava,Stephanie Jenkins, Brian Farrell, Jennifer Brumback and Nick Capodice. You're going to give a little and you're going to take a little. Roberta Petz: Yes, and only my husband and I, when we first heard that she was missing, we flew immediately in and went to the police station. And according to Jim, and I should say I've heard differing accounts about this, but apparently the cops had brought in a lip reader to try to see what Garrow was saying. Brenna Farrell: How did that feel? Then there's no future crime, it's over. In 1961, Garrow confessed to knocking out a teenage boy and raping his. Like this is What do you do? But Armani wasn't there when Belge found her. frank armani: Both. Robert Krulwich: Isn't there a weight here building on the side of tell? She had gone missing just a couple of days before Susan. frank armani: So we could sleep. frank armani: To shock the jury's mind. Add Frank's birthday or the date he died to see a list of historic events that occurred during Frank's lifetime. Longtime friends stopped speaking to them. Brenna Farrell: About an hour south of the hospital. Brenna Farrell: Did you ever think of that? Jim Tracy: Because he was just laying there. Jim Tracy: That they left their tents up, they left barbecues smoldering, they left behind coolers. Distinguised Lawyer Award Cattaragus County Bar and Onondaga County Bar Association. Robert Krulwich: Well, it's actually, it's really more than just a legal case.