Chris had bruises on his inner and outer thigh, indicating that he WAS held down and his legs were held apart. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. Additionally, why would LG go down to the Laundromat at approx. I think Michelle died of a broken heart, possibly organ failure due to drug abuse. Friday, January 20th 2012. VICKIE: YES I DO. In my assessment, it speaks volumes to the guilt of Terry Hobbs that the children were tied up in the same manner as hogs being prepared for transport and that two of the children were tied up using square knots and figure eight knots, the same knots used by farmers and butchers. I believe he wanted to punish them because he faultedthemfor spying. RIDGE: OKAY, WHEN YOU WENT DOWN THERE WHO ALL WENT WITH YOU MOST THE TIME? I learned about this case 3 years ago. Which is right in line with why this attack would have occurred. The reason for this is because LG lived very close to both the Byers and the Moores. Hobbs may be awful, but nothing accounts for the beating and drowning that took place. For me Hobbs did it. What this means is that the men would have only needed to briefly remove their shoes before entering the water. The legal troubles of Terry Hobbs and John Mark Byers As I mentioned previously, this statement is an enormous indicator of truth, in my opinion. Court documents reveal new details in the case of the "West Memphis 3" Its intriguing, however, that Buddys statements were, He just held them while the others killed them, And, He hit a couple in the back of the head. Was Buddy really speaking of his own participation in the murders? My theory is this: Stevie had never seen the men in the woods having sex before. In part 3, when suing Natalie Maines, he said he wanted The Dixie Chicks to be "humiliated" as punishment when asked what he really wanted out of the lawsuit. I believe its likely that LG and Buddy most likely used only their fists to hit the boys. The kick, along with the humiliation of being spied on, would have made Terry snap because he did not stand for any kind of disobedience. Allegedly, the four men made it to a spot in the Blue Beacon Woods and Terry Hobbs asked the teens to wrestle each other. Ill let you be the judge. They happen to not agree with all of his interpretations. For years, the stepfather of one of the three children killed in West Memphis, Arkansas, has maintained his innocence, despite public outcry to investigate him. UNLESS YOU KNOW NOT GETTING UP THERE AND LOOKING AT IT ALL. Actually, Buddy and LG are theonlytwo people in twenty years of suspects and allegations that had family member come forward and say that they had blood on them following the murders. Now newly released evidence implicating Terry Hobbs has Pam Hobbs raising her own doubts about the man she once trusted. It really wasnt too difficult to do, at least for some of it. That leaves many years unaccounted for. However, Richard vehemently denied lending LG his car that night. In order to have a deeper understanding of what happened, we must start at the beginning. If you're into dick as an adult, you're gonna find your community. And even if he did work the day of the 5th, its the late afternoon/night that is important. I believe I ask where Steve was ask. For the rest of the night the families, neighbors, friends and police search for the boys. I believe that certainly Buddy, and perhaps LG as well, participated in the crime because of The Bystander Effect; they partook in the crime out of fear and/or compliance, but they did not have intentions to murder. Ifvery conservativelyone in every 10-20 people is gay or bi, and the police force is made up of 20 people (just a fun number) one of those cops is gonna like dick. I allege that Terry dropped LG off at 8:45 at the Laundromat/Flash Market on Ingram and proceeded to create an alibi for himself. DO YOU THINK THEY WERE CRAZY, AARON: THEY WERE ROLLED UP UM, CIGARETTES THERE WAS ALL KIND OF WHITE. If Terry truly had bitten and stabbed Chris scrotum, it would explain perfectly the questions around Chris death. The clubhouse was a spot where Aaron, Chris and Michael would go play in the Blue Beacon Woods. And if he witnessed the beginning of sexual activity, Stevie, unlike the others, would have known that if the three of them got caught spying they all would have been killed. The Blue Beacon Woods was connected to the Robin Hood Hills which was the last place the three boys had been spotted on the night of the 5th. AARON: I THINK THEY WENT DOWN THERE. Douglas believes the act was meant to dominate, control, humiliate and punish. When the boys were eventually discovered the next day, not only were they discovered hidden under water, but their clothes and bicycles had all been submerged as well. In addition to that, when the boys autopsies were performed, animal hair was discovered on them. THE MEN SEEN THEM. Also, we dont know if the four men were already well acquainted. Jamie and her sister believe that this occurred at 6:30, while their mother believes that the boys were playing in her backyard somewhere between 5:30-6:30pm. David Jacoby is the key to this case. Further, there is some belief that part of the injury to Stevies penis was also a bitemark. The three little boys referenced in the declarations were found brutally murdered in West Memphis, Arkansas in 1993. If anyone might know where the boys were going or what their plans had been for that day, it would most likely have been Aaron. AND I TOLD HIM, YOU KNOW WHAT WHY DIDNT YAWL LEAVE WHY DIDNT YOU COME HOME, WERE YOU SCARED? DO YOU THINK THEY WERE CRAZYAARON: THEY WERE SMOKINGRIDGE: FOR DOING WHAT THEY WERE DOING?AARON: THEY WERE ROLLED UP UM, CIGARETTES THERE WAS ALL KIND OF WHITERIDGE: KINDA WHITE CIGARETTES?AARON: ALL WHITETHE KIND YOU ROUND UP YEA YOU PUT THAT GREEN STUFF IN THERE. Considering that the boys were unconscious, this knot seems to have been used out of sheer habit. WHAT I THINK HAPPENED TO THEM. The use of hobbling helps to quickly control the animal as well as making transportation of the animal more easy. RIDGE: WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT DEAD ON? Perhaps. By the time the crime scene was cleaned up, it would have likely been around 8pm; dark, which I believe helped the four escape undetected. This is significant because no one else has ever theorized that Chris was actually bitten in his scrotum; its a completely new allegation. When Hobbs finally contacted the police, he did so from a payphone, even though the boy hadnt returned home at 4 p.m. as instructed, and neither had Christopher or Michael. Mother Of Murdered West Memphis 8-Year-Old Speaks Out About New I have recently taken a huge interest in this case, and found that there is misinformation literally everywhere. Additionally, Stevie, by both Pam and Terrys accounts was a well behaved boy who did not disobey. Hobbs, who dropped Pamela off at work at around 4:30 p.m., picked her up at approximately 9 p.m. and walked straight to a payphone to report the boy missing. This would have been the only way they could have crossed without falling into the water. I believe it was because Stevie was hit repeatedly on the left side of the face by LG. I cant be sure, but its possible that the interviewer in this deposition meant Roy not Ray. So, according to Aarons mother, Vickie, the clubhouse, which was located in the Blue Beacon Woods, was a spot where her son often went to play and any time he was late to come home it was because he was out playing in those woods. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Memphis_Three, http://callahan.8k.com/images/500/1/150.jpg. Also, by looking at the photo of the ditch where the boys were found, you can begin to have an understanding of what might have occurred. SIDEWAYS AND WE GOT IN OUR CLUB HOUSE. (1). . JMB really did love them even though he had a temper and did admit to corporal punishment. Two private investigators looking into the case on their behalf eventually turned their sights on Terry Hobbs, Steve's stepfather, because his story did not add up -- he had claimed that he had begun searching for the boys at 6 pm on the day they had disappeared when in reality, they had only been reported missing at 9 pm. However, the police knew LG was lying to them and yet his DNA, hair and prints have presumably never been tested against those found at the scene. Buddy allegedly confessed that when the four returned to the truck, Terry and David looked to the teens and promised to kill them if they ever spoke of the crime to anyone. Its when you combine all the known evidence, much of the debate and the different positions, it all leads here, to this. This lends credibilty to the theory that Stevie did in fact go home, and even ate some dinner. Also, Chris and Michael told Aaron never to tell Stevie. The suspicious part about this is that in a deposition taken in 2009, Terry Hobbs had the very same allegations implied against him that Billy Stewart made in 2013, four years later, but this time the implications were made by Natalie Maines lawyers. I believe that Terry intended to further molest and/or harm me because his actions and demeanor indicated that was his goal, but I believe my continued yelling and screaming alarmed him and caused him to run off. Flashback to 1993, 4 months after the murders, Pam said that Terry told her he didn't get mad, he got even. Not only did they not ever contact the Echols defense team in search of a deal for their help, Buddy Guy didnt send his letter to the prosecutor till the WM3 were out of prison. Apparently, there was a bank near the ditch that appeared to have been slicked down and cleaned off to the point that there was no grass or leaves at all in that one area. No doubt. RIDGE: ALRIGHT, WHEN YOU SAW THESE FIVE OUT THERE IN THE WOODS AND THEY WERE DOING THESE THINGS THAT WERE BAD OKAY WAS THIS AT DAYTIME OR WAS IT NIGHTTIME? Terry was born in Northern Arkansas and grew up in the Ozark Mountain region of the state. My opinion is that Terry wanted to humiliate the boys becausehefelt humiliated when the boys caught him involved in a sex act with other men. He actually worked in a slaughterhouse. I also believe the mutilations to Chris Byres was pure turtle predation, as well as Stevie's facial injuries. Basically, anything that both sides agree with I consider to be a fact because its gone undisputed. In his first interview, taken shortly after the murders, he claims he went home in the early afternoon but then changes his story and puts himself in Lakeshore at 4:30. It appeared as though Christopher was tied up by one person, most likely David Jacoby, in my opinion, since his knots were all the same. AH I SAID ARRON YOU KNOW THAT THEY TOOK THEIR CLOTHES OFF WHY DIDNT YOU LEAVE? Despite this evidence, no charges have ever been brought against Hobbs, who still firmly believes that Echols, Baldwin, and Misskelley are guilty of the . After 18 months Echols was informed that the evidence was likely not available, but after a state court order, Echols team was invited to the West Memphis Police Department to review what evidence remained. The fact that David Jacoby said that he saw all three boys and one was riding on a skateboard, means that Davidreally didsee the boys at some point that day. The crime scene, as well as the clubhouse were both located somewhat close to each other on the east side of the drainage ditch. VICKIE: ARRON TOLD ME THAT UM HE AND MICHAEL AND CHRIS VISITED THEIR CLUB HOUSE EVERYDAY AND THEY ROAD THEIR BIKES AND THEY WERE SPYING ON 5 MEN AND AH I ASKED HIM WHO THEY WERE AND HE SAID I DONT KNOW MOM WHO THEY WERE I JUST YOU KNOW WE JUST SPYING ON EM I SAID WHY WOULD YOU BE SPYING ON 5 MEN YOU KNOW AND HE SAID WELL THEY WERE THERE EVERYDAY SO WE WOULD WATCH THEM. When LG was interviewed by police one of the things they noted was LGs suspicious relationship with Richard Simpson. Steven Branch had lacerations on his penis which were probably self-inflicted indicating a sexualized child, usually associated with sexual abuse. On May 6, 1993, three boys are found hog-tied and murdered in a ditch in West Memphis, Arkansas. Remember that LGs own mother was looking for him that night, despite the claim that he was allegedly dropped off at her home. Terry Hobbs was a violent man, this is proven and well documented, and the way Douglass pictures it, he likely wanted to punish or humiliate one or all of the boys and it went too far, leading him to murder them so they wouldn't be able to tell anyone. The prosecution would mention a stick and Perreti kept saying, Or a 24. http://callahan.8k.com/pdf/de_dnamotion3_30_11.pdf. If LG had been dropped off at home at 4:30, surely he would have changed out of his shirt and tie by 9pm. LG was actually a suspect from the very beginning, and its actually really shocking to me that he was not further investigated. VICKIE: IN MIDDLE AFTERNOONRIDGE: OKAY, AND WHAT DID YOU FIND WHEN YOU CAME TO THE AREA? Based on the reports made available to the public pertaining to Damien's mental health issues, this is a flat out lie. Why would he ask Terry where Stevie was if he literally had seen Stevie riding in the street with his friends a few minutes prior? It seems extremely unlikely that one person would have been able to do this on their own in such a short period of time. I personally could argue that the three are guilty based on the research I've done, but I could also argue that Terry Hobbs is. Right as this happened, Terry, who was their neighbor, called to Stevie to come home. Look what you made me do! The West Memphis Three Trial: Who was the real killer or killers? However, I do believe that this was Terrys murder and he controlled it. AND UH, HE SAID AFTER WE HAD LEFT THE MOORES COMING OUT OF THEIR DOOR HE TOLD ME MAMA LETS GO TO THE CLUB HOUSE. She even described one brunette boy as being heavy set. This means that the four could have been driving around the back streets for around 25 minutes and then might have pulled up to the Blue Beacon Woods sometime around 6:40. The boys were not simply tossed in, but carried down the ditch and methodically pushed deep into the mud so they wouldnt float. ! Retired FBI profiler, John Douglas, as well as profiler Brent Turvey both believed the entire attack was punitive in nature and that the perpetrator was teaching the boys a lesson for either a real or percieved transgression. With advancements in DNA testing, hopefully we will soon know exactly whose DNA this very small sample belongs to. Everybody said that Damian, I know that hes suppose to have 666 on his shoes. Echols lawyer, Patrick Benca, reviewed evidence earlier this year that was thought to have been lost. and our Allegedly, some children who used to play in those woods have claimed that stray dogs lived there (source). She hasnt seen him or Michael by this point. HE SAID NO, THERE, YOU KNOW YOU CAN TELL WHEN YOUR CHILD IS LYING AND IT WAS LIKE HE KNEW SOMETHING WAS UP. This means that the boys had most likely arrived to the Blue Beacon Woods before the four men did, crossing over from the west side of the drainage ditch to the east side of the drainage ditch, on a log that lay across the ditch at the south end. No. When his friend Richard failed a polygraph, he admitted that LG had asked him to lie. Yet, when Jared asked about the evidence possibly being tested in the future, Hobbs said he was against testing anything else and as far as he was concerned, the case was solved when Echols, Misskelly, and Baldwin were arrested. As mentioned earlier, Terry Hobbs, like John Mark Byers before him, was fingered as a suspect in 2012's West of Memphis after a hair found at the crime scene was genetically matched to him. Misskelly, who has a low IQ, reportedly gave detectives a false confession which helped a jury convict the three of murder. And the 90s. Additionally, there is an ample amount of evidence, in my opinion, that Terry might have sexually abused all of his children. As CrimeOnline previously reported, Damien Echols, along with friends Jason Baldwin and Jesse Misskelly, were convicted of murder in 1994, in connection with the murders of Chris Byers, Michael Moore, and Steven. In 2011, Jamie Ballard, her sister and her mother came forward when they discovered that Terry Hobbs claimed to have never seen the boys on the 5th. One of the most vital components of this theory is whether LG and Buddy had alibis for this night. RIDGE: ALRIGHT. He systematically destroyed every member of his family, traumatizing them with years of extreme sexual abuse/grooming and beatings. He said they were doing "what Indians do". I allege that all three men returned to Terrys home and cleaned themselves up, which most likely involved washing mud off their shoes. He later changed that story and claimed she told them they were at some apartments. Expelled From Law School, Dad Convicted of Mom & Brothers Murder. DO YOU KNOW WHERE THE CLUB HOUSE WAS? My theory is that when Stevie saw Terry there, he was scared, very scared. Due to the fact that the three were so severely injured, a weapon had to have been used at some point. This is when Terry and David would have allegedly arrived at Lakeshore, seen Buddy and LG walking together and asked them who was holding weed. He was also a minister in the Apostolic Pentecost Church, a fundamentalist group. He walked into the restaurant and went directly to the payphone. [1]. Also, the sister who caught Hobbs washing laundry in the middle of the fucking night! WE ALWAYS GOT A PLACE TO HIDE BEFORE THEY CAN GET THERERIDGE: WHERE DID YOU HIDE?AARON: WE HIDE ONE TIME WE HIDE BEHIND UM A TREE. The only reason one could think that someone would make the concerted, and possibly dangerous, effort to take the bikes up to the bayou to be submerged, was to give themselves time to create an alibi. Aaron Hutchinson also stated that the clubhouse consisted of some old boards: AARON: IN ROBIN HOOD UH, THE PLACE WHERE THE BOARDS ARERIDGE: WAS IT THERE WHERE YOUR CLUB IS OR WAS IT SOME WHERE ELSE IN THOSE WOODS?AARON: IT WAS RIGHT BESIDE OUR UM, TREE HOUSE, And in 2011, pleadings for further DNA testing of the boards that were found next to the clubhouse:http://callahan.8k.com/pdf/de_dnamotion3_30_11.pdf. He told police that he and his friends often played in the Blue Beacon Woods. Sex always wins and a casual look through history will show that people are gonna get off to what they need to get off to. I believe he intended to terrify and threaten them so they would never, ever speak of what they had seen. Lastly, Stevie branch apparently told his cousin that Terry was molesting him and Amanda. West Memphis Police Officer, Bryn Ridge found Michael Moore first, just south of the crooked tree that juts out from the ground in the photo on the far left. It is much more plausible that Stevie would have come home not much later than the time he was originally supposed to be there and that he made it home not much later than dinnertime. It's sickening because I think everyone forgets the innocent boys that will never have justice. However, this was never corroborated by police. I was almost 21, a new mom and lived just across the bridge, in Memphis when the murders happened. He believed that the men, this time, saw the boys spying and killed them. Terry was born in Northern Arkansas and grew up in the Ozark Mountain region of the state. Stevie promises and the boys leave. How about his fucking alibi, oh wait, the dudehe claimed him as an alibi thinks he did it. ~Stevie had bruises on the back of his hands, indicating he put up a fight. ~It appears the boys *were* punched.. at least a little bit. Biting and stabbing the groin of a male victim is a hallmark of a homosexual homicide. HE TOLD THE REST OF THE MEN TO HOLD THEM OR SOMETHING AND PROBABLY DID IT. This could have given him ample time to clean the area. To corroborate this letter, Byers and Hicks lawyer and investigator contacted Bennies friend, Billy Stewart. AARON: KIND OF. French reported that prior to the incident she had gone to the Hobbs' home after hearing what she believed to be a domestic dispute. Murders In West Memphis::: - Jivepuppi Clemente emphasized that someone who wants to know why the children were killed would likely encourage any and all evidence testing, as its one step closer to understanding the heinous murder. He also claimed that Jessie said he had punched a couple in the back of the head. And, allegedly, David was the one who caught Christopher, so I believe the first person who was attacked was Michael. Before I continue, its important to bring up the alleged homosexuality of Terry Hobbs, which , in my opinion lends credence to the entire theory. Wednesday May 5th 1993, was no different than other typical day in West Memphis Arkansas. Terry Hobbs, the stepfather of another one of the murdered boys. If that is true, then that is more evidence to support Billys statements as being factual. RIDGE IRENE SHE TOLD YOU SOMETHING ABOUT THE DAY THE KIDS WERE MURDERED? He actually interfered in a police investigation and he admitted it publicly. I hear you. A month later three teens, Damien Echols, Jason Baldwin and Jessie Misskelley were arrested for the murders of the three eight year old boys. My feeling is that LG, thinking of a close and safe spot where he could go, would have asked Terry to drop him off at the Laundromat, less than a mile away from Terrys house. Terry is an absolute sadist, psychopath and was never properly investigated, and I know The Hobbs Family Secret is true, possibly The Puzzle. I agree with that assessment but believe there were additional reasons. RIDGE: OKAY, AND WHAT DID YOU DO WHEN YOU WENT DOWN THERE? Misskelly later recanted and claimed he was tired, ready to go home, and said what the detectives wanted him to say. VICKIE: IT WAS COPSRIDGE: WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT DEAD ON? An attorney for one of the victim's mother dropped the bombshell in court today that she believes her ex-husband Terry Hobbs took part in the killings. Would project a macho, heterosexual, in-control image. The way the three boys were tied, wrist to ankle, as opposed to wrist to wrist, ankle to ankle, is one of the most unique aspects to this case. He was also a minister in the Apostolic Pentecost Church, a fundamentalist group. As he jumped up from the fall, he grabbed Chris and apparently hit him with force as well. RIDGE: DID YOU EVER SMELL THE SMOKE? BREAKING: 'West Of Memphis' Unveils New Witnesses In Murder Case I TOOK AARON TO TODD AND DANAS HOUSE AND UM, TODD ASKED AARON IF HE MIGHT KNOW DID CHRIS OR MICHAEL SAY ANYTHING TO HIM, TO THE EFFECT WHERE THEY MIGHT BE. In LGs interviews of what he did that afternoon, he repeatedly contradicts himself. The West Memphis Police Department and other officials are being accused of stonewalling the release of the evidence for over a year and informing Echols team that the evidence was lost or destroyed. Dixie stated that she knew Richards car and that it was not his. WE NEED TO GO TO THE CLUB HOUSE. As Bennies statements suggest, as well the MEs position on Michaels injuries, there is good evidence to suggest that Michael was violently attacked first and then lay unconscious for the rest of the crime. I know that all the experts agree that Michael was unconscious while he was tied up but I dont know about Stevie..