I like how there is no join up fee. But at the same time they require all rights to the model, and the model is removed from sale at all sites. Honestly I feel that it would be better to sell n bit slower that to have your models stolen. I like the concept of CGtrader very much, hope to see the duality issues resolved. Hi guys, thanks so much for your very valuable comments, they are much appreciated and we are very happy to work with you in order to make CGTrader the best place for 3D designers! Buyer can contact seller directly, which can save him/her lot's of time and frustrations. In response he founded this place on the core principal that the artist would come first. By subscribing you confirm that you have read and accept ourTerms of Use. It is currently selling on the of TS is much higher than on CGT. Noise Treshold: (I forgot to put TS up). You are clearly one of the professional buyers who doesn't take advantage of the system but there are so many out there who do that and 3D sites are beginning to try to safe guard their artist's work by not making it so easy to just get everything you want for free. I wish someday Turbosquid disappear or bankrupt. This would allow genuine potential buyers to check the quality of models. Determining the optimal cost of the models is an important and difficult moment. Products are subject to the TurboSquid, Inc. For some people with experience that did the math taking all factors in count (not talking about just NoneCG, of course) it was crystal clear since many years ago. We previously sent you final warnings about your non-compliance with our Best Prices policy. "This is new era, time of old fashioned corporatism is going to be over. Turbosquid just has it backwards. However, if you are found to be out of compliance again, your collection will be taken offline for a more extended period of time. I sell my shipping container which is professional model according to my buyers reviews . I have always been amazed at how TS can pull off their selling stunt, I've got better stuff AND cheaper on here than on TS but the sales over there totally dominate. In this case the fastest support can not help. @Urecky, while i'm agree with you in general, let me argue on some specific points. No frankly, it's a bloody mystery. Yes, sometimes your points are not displayed for a day or two, but there were problems with the rating of models. They provide clients with pretty much everything they could possibly want at reasonable prices and have a 100 percent guarantee return policy on all their items. That is true, but im talking if buyer is already familiar with existence of CGTrader, he can reap all the benefits then. - Limiting free objects to, let's say licensed objects like Stars Wars or Lego or whatever in an unlimited number, but to a few when it comes to "showcase" objects, let's say, 4 to 5 per designer, to help potential buyer judge the overall quality of the seller objects First of all make great and spectacular models for it and promote it on forums, facebook, linkedin groups and forums. I remember fighting them at length to try to put my brand name withing the model description or my website link and eventually lost the battle. My initial idea was that Ts had some clients that do not know anything outside of Ts. Contact your Shutterstock Customer Success Manager, $10,000 in Legal Protection (Indemnification), Uncapped Legal Protection (Indemnification), $1,000,000 in Legal Protection (Indemnification), $250,000 in Legal Protection (Indemnification). New content is not provided to the on "Turbo" site. In that case on CGTrader buyer can contact seller directly and ask him/her to fix the issue. I had a conversation with Eduardas he confirmed that they will improve the feedback system. I am huge fan of the CGT team because they really try hard to make us happy. What, iterateCGI goos down? The motivation to backlink and make marketing efforts for the own store (and the collective trademark ad the same time) would probable also increase. So if I am looking after regular CG models, afters a few minutes search, my logical choice is not to search on CGTrader but rather on "old-fashioned" sites. Here is a quick test that can help understand why there aren't so many buyers. There is a lamp that looks pretty cool (Gervasoni Bolla Floor light), and is supposedly free. Build your own Brand with your own criteria and goals. I'm done with them. I have met a bunch of really good artists here that I have had the pleasure of working with. So part of the problem would probably be solved if a buyer would indeed get reputation points for buying models and gain more access in the process. We've been on TS over 20 years and on CG trader since their start. cgtrader is far better than turbosquid in my opinion coz cgtrader offer 80% royalti payment and turbo only give you 40% royalti payment which is sad. Regards, There are tons of things better here on CGtrader, most notably we get served very well for extremely low cost. Remember The3DStudio? This is new era, time of old fashioned corporatism is going to be over. Selling 3D models on Ebay or Amazon would probably generate problems? (Edge To be honest, when I first found this site a few days ago I was really excited. Answer: IN my opinion Turbosquid is a great site for selling models. I don't know if Turbo Squid allows licence ownership to be transferred as i never got that far with them. Dear adentonclark, Beautifully put IterateCGI, let's hope it is signal for more than just Tubro's downfall, but hopefully the downfall of treating 3D creators like shit. Typically, large corporate buyers, they find a way to contact me even and on TS and make an offer on a specific project. Ts just took royalty's from other items I've sold to get the money back. Turbosquid is butt ugly and greedy, I hope when CG gets bigger than TS, they don't end up the same way. personally CGTrader is the second site where I realize more sales, I think we should avoid generalizing his own experience. With only a few days on CG trader, i can already see it is miles ahead of turbosquid. Money rules! According to me ,in the future, more a 3DMarketplace will be open more it will take to success. Thanks once again! When you just start out you have to price your models at 1 dollar or give them away for free but the second you start selling well they take your models offline and force you to raise your prices Once you raise your prices nobody buys and you are back to square 1. It makes you blind and clueless to how a customer is actually using your product and how well it integrates in his business and future activities. So what I did was simply adding the 60% cut to the product on Ts. It is the best RR in the world ! Their only flaws are the lack of publicity and their search engine. In this case a collaborative action could be established to make the product more attractive. We can't even communicate on Ts, and that in an age of supper connectivity, it's just the world on his head. They can present the model screenshots straight from their helpdesk and ensure the client is not being screwed? BUT this is still not as infuriating as a personal account falling once a month with all the statistics! Ts would probably just pull up the royalty's and change policy if it stats feeling uncomfortable, but it would not change what is in memory. On TS depends on the country you come for, you get around 30% of your earnings (this is how much you get on your account, I know it is stated 60% but they take additional 30% for US tax), here I am not shore how much you get as I just joined and did not made any sales. Ts went head on and contacted me (I was probably among list of targeted folks at that time, Ts previously also contacted me to make some shady deals which I rejected), now they requested me to lower my prices according to new price grantee model. A good ref point is that your average laptop with Dual Pentium 2 gigahertz processor 8 GB of ram will start having issues when running over 200,000 polygons. because CGTrader team quickly investigate and decided to remove the bad Feeback. There are very few modelers out there who can actually support themselves financially doing this and whenever one of us sells anything it is a little like winning the lottery. They say you can price things anyway you want but then they take down your models if they do not agree with how you price them. It is likely that people will want to try out new things in their stores from time to time. You can just buy and return it if it is not to your satisfaction. So what's needed? But it should be also possible to turn this filter off. I'm even considering seriously closing my store here. @IndieArt : So you definitively think that CGtrader's "change of focus" to 3D print sunk your sales? royalty scale you work up on is all very cool the fact you can print here sell files here and stream files all on one listing CG TRADER FOR THE WIN!!! Anyway, there is still some ocasional Turbosquid fanboy that bashes CGtrader and promotes Turbosquid in public forums and social media while writes this in TS forums at the same time: You are right IterateCGI it would be terrible for the photo realistic 3D models however if you think about it not that many 3D artists create things in that style and in some cases are capable of doing that especially some of the newbies. I do feel cg trader gives the artists a better price and the share is fair . I started uploading on a few sites and TS was one of them and I can tell you now that that place is a mess. When you search for specific models car, bike etc you usually end up finding a bunch of irrelevant models in there that don't even belong in that category and that is largely due to the fact that, they allow users to setup their own tags (I prefer not to learn/spent time to handle all the different 3D applications and conversions) Send of two customers so far (here on CGt), hoe asked for a maya version of this model. Does anyone sale something on Cgtrader?where are customers. NoneCg I've read almost all your information regarding the public issues. Buyer can contact seller directly, which can save him/her lot's of time and frustrations. Tom cat cartoon character rigged for Maya 12. This would be a really good way of encouraging buyers to come spend their money on CGtrader where they can find what they want faster than on other sites. If you have any questions about these items before you purchase, please contact us at https://support.turbosquid.com/ Click here to submit yours . found jet another working example that makes CGt stand out. They recently changed their search engine over there and when you search for Free models it comes up with a few free ones and many more paid ones so from that perspective Turbosquid makes your life even harder lol. Uploading new product is so much more intuitive and easier than TS. Difference in quality of search results is shockingly vast in favor of TS. If you manage to get lots of buyers on there you could make a real fortune. Putting 3D printing as the main product range on first page doesn't help, as has been noted. I agree that these two parts - CG and 3D printing should be split at least externally/ visually. What? I think I do a decent job at earning my keep.. And yes, it this is like if shapeways started doing cg. Maybe CG Trader should consider a large add-on to the site, where the customers can click a link, and go to a whole new site (owned by cg trader) that does sells strictly 3d printable models :) Just an idea :). I was ,,Diamond ,, since 2008, they stole items and they never gave me the money . etc That's how they won and that is how you succeed in business. Saied this couple of times in the past, leverage the difference in royalty to provide a slightly better offer over here, otherwise customers hoe have a Ts account will see no need to make one here to buy same model for same price. I do agree with you regarding the search engine. If you have any questions about these. If a company like Disney or NASA buys a model at TS, they advertise it as "Turbosquid customers buying Turbosquid models". @tomislavveg, that is very true, but as marvimation already mentioned, CGT first have to draw those buyers to its web, otherwise there's not much use from all those benefits if there's no buyers who could reap them :]. I don't know how reputation points work for sellers, they may work fine if you're an actual modeler, but for end-users it's just a dead-end. Unlike Turbosquid which has remained practically the same since it was created and that actually has become dodgier over time as they have been adding more and more hoops for artists to jump through just to upload a basic model CGT has been great about constantly listening to it's artists needs and made great improvements! Delhi Escort This is why: That definitely wasn't me hoe said that turbo. An important factor for many buyers is the possibility of cash transactions in the system WebMoney. Rigged 3D models are available in Autodesk 3ds Max (.max), Maya (.ma), Softimage (.xsi), Cinema 4D (.c4d) and many other file formats. In fact, any properly textured model over 5000 polys for less than 15 bucks is NOT okay, and does NOT look professional at all. On TS buyer cant do such thing, he needs to contact support on TS. Maybe some people don't want to bother about different programs compatibility, while others don't mind to spent time configuring things in different applications. Not that I like it or want to have my objects "borrowed". Also, trying to find an item that I already saw through the search is near impossible. This site is bloated with 3D print ready models, crap models and "adult content / i cant see it". Such an arrogant attitude. Dear adentonclark, They often would ask me to just send them a model through email and pay me through paypal like in the old days. Some while ago someone (if he is real, can't even verify that) bought my snakebot model on Ts and he posted a nice comment. (just playing with ideas here) Best of luck to cg trader, they have a great business model and site, it is just going to be incredibly difficult to take any of the market share from such a well established company. Old thread but still relevant, do yourself a favour and cut back on the seafood, delete TS bookmarks and make progress here. I think arguments of differences in search are irrelevant when someone is looking for the same model to compare prices between the two biggest players. Products should be grouped not only by name and category but also by poly count. We will only contact you if there's a problem with an order. Thanks for sharing Your experience and thoughts. adentonclark is 100 percent correct in this regard! Free3d.com7. Let me explain - I like the look of the models here, but the site is even designed so end users, like me, can't even download more that 10 "free" items unless they've uploaded models of their own, written tutorials, posted topics to the forum (which is difficult if you're not an actual modeler) and/or jumped through about 1,500 other ridiculous hoops to get enough "reputation" points. But now, I'm exploring a new platform which is Sketchfab. And something ells , I have seen people criticize the young inexperienced and even blame them to some point for some negative experiences over here. [link="http://www.google.com"]google1[/link] For example, I ran into this this morning. And also because of the complete isolation of the seller-buyer. [13google->http://www.google.com/] (so you basically pay for a fraud protection system for people hoe sell themselves out exclusively). When someone uploads a scanned model for 3D printing and tags it as "low poly", the model will appear even where it shouldn't. Bangalore Escort I'm suggesting a collective of store owners. Having a direct link/communication is also critical in detecting possible needs and potential new business. Just my opinion, but look at homepage. - Forcing people to choose a proper tagging to their objects so that we don't get scanned high poly print-ready objects in the way when we tick the "low-poly" filter, Very soon there will be robots that can scan objects faster than any modeler can model them and then reproduce a print almost instantly in 10 to 30 years 3D jobs will be irrelevant but until then someone needs to really bring CGtrader to the big markets. Although I agree the presentation of CGtraders home page is heavily focused at 3D printing, NoneCG did not suffer ANY drop in sales. Search is terrible, and lost if you have to go backwards a page. We finally have some real genuine completion for the best sales platform. former the 3d studio, 3D export, creative crash and Turbosquid). TS management is by far the worst in history, they are great at Hostile take overs, yet bad at dealing with the realities of industry, i stopped all my affiliate links with TS and right now i'm sharing only the links for my products on CGT and Art station. TurboSquid goes down, It becomes miserable the users are ,,working from behind,, ! But there are questions that are not achievable for TS, and they will not go to such steps, and it is this: 1. I remember that too! Since then, I think the design has gotten much better, especially the separation between regular CG and 3D print, and the search algorithm seems also to be much more efficient. However, we have detected that you have set your prices back numerous times after we have made appropriate changes. The stores/collections idea sounds good but maybe a simpler voting system for any product/seller will give an easy ranking system to take in count for search results among other factors. The clients like to waste money for a more expensive model at TSquid, perhaps knowing that the artist will get shafted with a measly 40% return, and that's that. Fine details have been sculpted on the model down to pores and fine lines on the face and body. Royalty rate of CGTrader allows the seller to make a model cheaper than on TurboSquid. In this case you could say (in a nutshell) CGt is (at its core) acting as a hub providing file hosting and transaction services, and it can basically do so whit everything digital. Yes you are right Zet! The more people ho place your item in their stores the higher your ranking for that product gets "in the pool that is". [url=http://www.google.com]google2[/url] Both are still growing, but it seems CGtrader is growing much more. It's an example of waste of human recourses and time, because how many more are performing this same conversion work without telling? I posted my first model today and have to say it was a very pleasant experience. That is very strong argument in favor of CGT, but then again, don't you think that corporate client would rather choose to get support from team of profesionals that are available 24/7, than from unknown person, who might respond with big delay or not respon at all? And i cannot take care for piracy or stolen models because the 3d stuff will go in piracy anyways, doensnt matter the platform it comes from. They bring answers to your problems or requests quite fast and in a very convivial way. I didn't checked it for a while (around a year) but comparatively Cgtrader has a much more streamlined upload system compared to Turbosquid's. I deleted my products here and joined sguild again, no reason for staying here. And at the same time, if they periodically do something here, try to add something new, then the TS, as long as I remember it, does not particularly try to become convenient (But at the same time it takes most of the profit !!!). --GENERAL--. Login to PayPal to add your account as a payment method. (These stats can be confirmed as true by CGtrader staff, we have no problem with that).